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Re: Getting Errors while trying to activate Planning Area

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Hi Vivek,

 

I Have checked all the Planning Levels and tried to re-activate but getting the same error.

 

Regards,

Sourojit


Modeling open orders for supply run

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Are there any standard key figures in SAP4 planning area using which we can model situations where there are goods in transit or open purchase orders scheduled for future months and we would like those to be considered while running the optimizer algorithm?

 

If there is nothing standard are there any suggestions as to how to do this can be done in IBP?

 

Thanks,

Srikant

Re: Getting Errors while trying to activate Planning Area

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Hi Sourojit,

 

Which IBP release you are using? Also please attach the entire activation log.

 

Best regards

Rinju

Re: IBP 6.1 Master Data with External Systems

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Hi Irmi,

 

Ok I understand what you say, and according to your explanation we can cover our requirements with Simple and Compound MD Type.

 

Only one more question, to be 100% sure. You don't recommend use "Virtual" MD Type in anycase for this situation, right? I'd rather be sure before to start with the configuration of the Data Model.

 

Thanks a lot for all your explanation and patience!

 

Best regards,

David.

Re: Getting Errors while trying to activate Planning Area

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Hi Rinju,

 

I am using version 6.1.

 

However, I have fixed the error recently. It was mainly because of some attributes not marked as root in some "all-root Planning Levels".

 

Thanks,

Re: IBP 6.1 Master Data with External Systems

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I did not comment on that at all yet, my comments where only external MD vs. all te rest of the types.

 

The usage of virtual MD types depend on your business requirement, not on where you load from

 

If for example you have MD types for Product and Customer. And you have a product group and Customer group. And if you than have an attribute which would be relevant on level product group - customer group, than it can make sense to work with virtual MD type, if you e.g. want to manually maintain it or if you have issues loading on the most detailed level of product and customer.

 

Yours

Irmi

Re: IBP 6.1 Master Data with External Systems

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Hi Irmi,

 

I apologize, I said Virtual when I wanted to say "External" MD types in my comment before (in fact we plan to use some Virtual MD in the configuration).

 

In this post I try to clarify only the concept of External MD types and the questions correctly was if you don't recomend use "External" MD in anycase for this situation, right?

 

Sorry again for the misunderstanding.

 

Thanks,

David.

Re: Issue with Local Members in Versions

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Hi Holger

I guess I am lacking knowledge to answer your question, did not have the situation yet that I wanted to have local KF for both the simulation versions and the correct versions.

 

Until recently, we needed usually seperate planning views for boths anyhow as the chart for Versions where working differently.

 

So I tried a bit with it as I find this a very interesting question :-)

 

If you dont change the way of display, you can have  local KF for the versions, but only if I attach it to member "version" and not member "key figure". Unfortunately than you get the line in every key figure and cannot choose to have it only for one version and one key figure.

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But if you switch display order between key figure and version so that key figure is first, than I managed to display a local key figure and attach it to e.g. Consensus Demand. Than the local kf is displayed after each Consensus Demand for every Version in display, pretty well.

 

My lessons learned out of it is, that the local members always have to refer to the last colum before the grid - which is in standard version case the version and not the key figure

 

Working with formula such as =EPMPOSITION(5) does not return anything useful in this case.

Working with =EPM([SCNID].[].[UPSIDE]) - EPM([SCNID].[].[__BASELINE]) works if version is at the most right position - but than you get the local kf after EVERY kf.

Working with =EPMMEMBER([KEY_FIGURE].[].[CONSENSUSDEMAND]) works great, but only if the version is in the layout AFTER the key figure --> and in that case the formula still work when you remove the version !!!

 

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So, it does work - if you switch display.

No switch, no formula with key figure but only with version and applying to all key figures

 

Hope that helps

Irmi


Re: IBP 6.1 Master Data with External Systems

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Correct, in your case (and if you dont plan to introduce response or work elsewise with static model), I would not use external type

Cheers

Irmi

Re: IBP-PA activation error while configuring Supply scenario

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Does PERLOCRES have any attributes that are not available in PERPRODLOCRES?

Usually that is root cause for such kind of messages:

You add afterwards soem new attributes to the e.g. the location and forget to inlcude that into all planing levels. Than te cross-level calculation does not work properly any more

Re: Issue with Local Members in Versions

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Sure, but I am glad to hear that it should work - and I am pretty sure I used logics like you described before as well. I hope something is just off in my settings...

 

So here we go:

 

Case 1:

 

The most simple calculation I could think of: Have a local member that takes a certain value from the past period:

 

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Surprisingly, even with local member recognition activated, IBP just performs a simple excel calculation and does not even build up a local member. This also holds for all kinds of other calculations, as long as the respective period (in this Case Jun'15) is NOT part of the formula:

 

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Case 2:

 

Now I add the respective period to the formula. Again, a very basic calculation: Take Value of KF1 of the current period and add Value of KF2 of previous period:

 

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When I press enter, the Local Member is created, but as I described the formula automatically switches to only include KFs in the respective period. Strange!

 

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The created Local Member looks like this:

 

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Im a little bit puzzled by this behaviour, because as you said and I remember, I was able to perform calculations like this before...

Re: IBP-PA activation error while configuring Supply scenario

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Hi Irmi,

 

 

PERPRODLOCRES is a more granular level and has additional attribute 'Product', not available in PERLOCRES planning Level.

 

Basically I want to aggregate the CAPADEMAND at Product-Location-Resource to get CAPADEMAND at Location-Resource  level.

 

 

Then this CAPADEMAND at Location-Resource level will be used in another Alert key figure to compare it with CAPASUPPLY at Location-Resource Level.

 

 

Thanks,

Diwakar S.

Re: Modeling open orders for supply run

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Hi Rohit,

 

The above thread talks about open orders from a demand perspective. However, what we are trying to explore is if there are any open purchase order for raw material which is planned for future months, can those be taken into account when doing the supply run.

 

Let me try to explain that with the actual use case. In oil industry, the raw material (crude oil) is purchased through future contracts and the refinery expects delivery of the crude during certain months in future. So, basically you are expecting raw material receipts in different quantities in future planning buckets (months). Now, if I want to include this information as in input when doing supply run over my planning horizon, how can that be done in IBP?

 

Thanks,

Srikant

Re: IBP-PA activation error while configuring Supply scenario

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I am fully aware of the requirement :-)

 

I have seen that error mesasge a lot of times, and nearly in all cases it was that the left side of the calculation has some information that the right side could not provide

 

This situation very easily comes when you have a lot of attributes.

 

So you have to check if there are any attributes on the LEFT side = PERLOCRES that are not in the more granular level, even if the root information is more granular on the right than on the left side

That can only be attributes to Period, to Location and to Ressource

 

If you are sure that is not the case, maybe the system has still some faulty entries in the backnd that are wrong. As the KF seems not to be used anywhere else, you may try to delete it, activate, and re-create it - as last hope...

 

 

Cheers

Irmi

Re: Modeling open orders for supply run

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Hi Srikant,

 

i think you can use inventory correction if you are already aware about incoming receipts. It can go as an input to supply planning and will act as already existing stock which will consume the demand.

 

Thanks,

Rohit


Re: Assigning Forecast Model in IBP 6.1

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Thanks Anna,

 

I have already got one planning level assigned using tile: Assign Forecast Model.

Now, I want to change the assigned planning level.

 

On clicking on my Name on the top right corner, I am getting the following options:

-User Preference

-Adapt UI (This is disabled)

-Tile Catalog

-Personalize Home Page

-Log Out

 

I did not get  settings here.

 

Regards,

Sourojit

Re: Issue with Local Members in Versions

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Understand, and you are right.

When working with formulas such as

=EPMMEMBER([KEY_FIGURE].[].[CONSENSUSDEMAND])

I could not manage either, as I did not find any possibility to add time information.

 

But if you put in formula such as =J5+K6 it does work

Surely disadvantage is that you shall not change the order of the key figures as the system is stupid and would mess up.

Plus, you need to catch in the formula for the first period that the previous period does not have a value but text e.g. by something like this:

IF(IFERROR(INT(zelle)); calculation 1  ;  calculation 2)

Plus you can check if the kf is the right one by e.g.

=IF((ISNUMBER(SEARCH("Global Demand Planning Quantity Prev Cycle";$P6))); calculation 1; calculation 2)

$P6 would be the cell to check the kf name and with the dollar you make sure that alwyas the same column is checked and only the row is moved.

But in general for those kind of calculation my recommendation would be to tell the users for not changing the order of KF .

 

Alternatively you can write VBA macro for that, but that would be possible for real storage keyfigures that have editability.

 

--> See example:

7.jpg--> in first period only K8 is taken to avoid error mesage.

 

 

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Message was edited by: Irmhild Kuntze

Re: Modeling open orders for supply run

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Hi Srikant,

 

You can use MINIMUM key figures. In case of procurement/POs you can use MINRECEIPT.

 

The minimum acts as lower bound for supply. You can find details in document 04_Minimum Key Figures in SAP note 2238074.

 

If you want to fix supply you can use Adjusted key figures.

 

Thanks,

Pramod

Re: Assigning Forecast Model in IBP 6.1

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Hi,

 

it should be there in my opinion. There is no other way to my knowledge to create the different assignments on the different planning levels than via this tile.

I would propose to open a support ticket on SCM-IBP-DM-STF so that someone can check.

 

Best Regards,

Anna

Re: Modeling open orders for supply run

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Hi Pramod,

 

Yes, adjusted key figures can be used. The only problem is that since the same key figure is used to account for incoming supply as well as any actual adjustments being done by the planner, post supply run it will be difficult for the planner to analyze as to what changes were because of the adjustment vs. the incoming supply. But yes, from an end result perspective the output will respect the future supply receipts.

 

MINRECEIPT - Thanks for pointing to the SAP note. From the note(as well as your comment) it looks like the constraint is not definitive but puts a lower limit on the receipt. So, I am guessing that the algorithm may plan for a receipt higher than the value which has been provided in this key figure. This would not entirely cover my use case since my crude oil receipts are confirmed numbers and planning assuming a higher receipts would be in-correct.

 

However, since there is also MAXRECEIPT, what if I give the same value (or slightly incremental value) for both min and max will that not force optimizer to assume the receipt as a confirmed number or between a very narrow range?

 

Thanks,

Srikant

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